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•|AMUG 02/14/91 19:56:52 Michael Bean All Ragtime 75% off... I'll be bringing a 44-megabyte SyQuest cartridge drive and SCSI cables to connect to your Mac II with Kodak projection system. I've given lots of demos of RagTime 3 and the user group response is always astonishingly enthusiastic to the program. We do offer a very big discount to members of user groups. The list price of RagTime 3.1 is $599 plus shipping and handling. We'll be offering it to members of AMUG for $149 plus shipping and handling--one quarter of the list price. Please let as many of your group members know about this price as possible. It'll be good only for the night of the demonstration, and I will be taking orders after the demo (credit card preferred, naturally). We will offer a free copy of RagTime 3.1 and a copy of its lower-end version, RagTime Classic, for raffle/door prizes. However, due to the recent increase in security at airports as a result of the Gulf War, we will not bring copies to the meeting. We'll take the name and address of the winners and ship the program to them the following week via UPS. Looking forward to visiting Arizona! Jeff Johnson RagTime USA Technical Support Manager --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/15/91 00:13:05 Sam Kaplan Leslie Thomas Re: Memory Manage Yes, I tried it. It works well. No crashes. Could see the difference when playing Klondike with colorized cards. E •|AMUG 02/15/91 20:21:21 Jeffrey Gross Lawson English Re: System 6.0.7 Former User I had 6.07 running on my ci for a few weeks without any problems on my main software. However, many of my PD games had problems and would not run. My guess is something to do with the sound manager. Any way, I am back to 6.05. Does all that I want and my 'toys' work well. Jeff E •|AMUG 02/16/91 14:14:07 Alan Heflich Edward Packer "Saudinet"? Edward Packer types away in a message to All on 10 Feb 91 EP> A wife of a serviceman in the Gulf called me today and said she EP> heard on the news about "Saudinet". This is supposidly an E-Mail EP> service for people stationed in the Gulf. She wanted to know EP> which commercial services offered "Saudinet". I belong to both EP> "America Online" and "Prodigy". Neither services have this item. EP> Does anyone know who is offering "Saudinet"? I would appreciate EP> any of you "Compuserve", "Genie", etc. members letting me know. EP> My friend has an IBM and a Modem and would be glad to join whatever EP> service offered this feature. Thanks. Saudinet is another FidoNet echo. I will check around for a feed for it and add it to AMUG 2. I just got back from a trip and am a little behind so allow a week or two to find and set up a feed for it. I will post when it is working. =Alan --- COUNTERPoint Silver 1.02 * Origin: A Point of a growing MUG -> AMUG 850 members (1:114/53.1) E •|AMUG 02/16/91 22:31:18 Michael Bean Edward Packer RE: "Saudinet"? > Well, tonight I was happy to find that "Tiger's Den" has connected to > "Saudinet" via "Tabby" echo's. Thanks for the research, I will pass this > on to my friend. > I will areafix John so that we will have it here soon as well. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/16/91 22:31:18 Michael Bean Lawson English RE: System 6.0.7 > > I got this flame from an Apple person about what I had heard about System > 6.0.7. > Anyone had any problems running Systme 6.0.7 on an older machine? 6.0.7 will not run properly on older machines. It has some ROM calls that are incompatable. I would stronly suggest you not try 6.0.7 on an older mac. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/16/91 22:31:18 Michael Bean Dorman Bullard RE: System 6.0.7 > > > Suppsose 5 people left messages saying they had problems with System 6.0.7. > What would that tell you? How about 10? Why didn't you ask for anyone not > having problems to let you know? Anyhow, ready or not I am using 6.0.7 on an > SE 30 with no problems. Admitedly, not an exciting set up with lots of use > so far. But anyhow here's one that's one having no problems. By the way, it > is a new machine, and came installed on the hard drive. > Don't try that on a MacPlus! <grin> --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/17/91 04:52:19 Michael Bean All SAUDI NET AMUG I now carries SAUDI and SAUDI_INFO. Use the combine read function in the message board area to select and read messages from these areas if you are interested. For Copernicus users send an areafix for SAUDI and SAUDI_INFO. Here is some more info. Download the file Saudi.sit from the new section for further help. The Saudi Connection Some common Questions and Answers: What route does the mail take to Saudi Arabia? The mail goes from my system directly to Mark Niswonger's system (6 miles away) where he sends it straight to an American Sysop in Saudi Arabia. The SA Sysop prints out each message on a laser printer and hand delivers them to the US Military Post Office for distribution to our troops. What Addresses should we use? Specific Individuals: Name, Rank, Social Security Number Operation Desert Shield Organization/Unit (Deployed) APO NY ZIPCode Any Serviceman: Any Servicemember Operation Desert Shield APO New York 09848-0006 Are these messages censored? Yes, they are censored by both me and Mark for such things as: racial slurs, profanity and obvious things of that nature. We do not know if they are censored by any Arabian Nationals or not. Will there be two-way mail? Eventually there will be. At this time there is not but we are working on it. This is why all messages should end with the sender's full US Mail Address. Also, the "From" section of the message header should have the sendor's name in it, not the sysop's name. What's in it for me? The feeling that comes from doing a nice thing for someone. Also, we are working on getting national publicity for all BBSes that have signed up. This is why it is important that each BBS send us a listing of their specifics as in the SLIST file you received along with this file. Send it to me in the SAUDI_INFO echo, NOT the SAUDI Echo. (Please do NOT send any messages in the SAUDI, that echo is ONLY for letters to and from our servicemembers!) The Saudi Connection Guidelines All BBSes wishing to carry The Saudi Connection on their system must carry both echos: SAUDI, which is for Users to enter messages to the troops in Saudi Arabia, must be write-only. SAUDI_INFO, which is for the sysops to communicate with one another, must be sysop-only read and write. Sysops are responsible for all user messages entered on thier system. Messages entered must be in the following format: Recipient's full military address Body of Letter (ie, the message) Sender's full USPS address --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/18/91 04:14:14 Edward Packer Michael Bean RE: "Saudinet"? Mike, thanks so much for this valuble information. I will pass it on and make immediate use of this. --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG2-BBS*A GREAT MUG*ScottsdaleAz-602/947-0587 = (1:114/53) E •|AMUG 02/18/91 04:14:14 Edward Packer Michael Bean RE: "Saudinet"? Thanks...I can use either your's or the Tiger Net connection. A nice service for our members. --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG2-BBS*A GREAT MUG*ScottsdaleAz-602/947-0587 = (1:114/53) E •|AMUG 02/18/91 20:51:25 Michael Bean Edward Packer RE: "Saudinet"? > Mike, thanks so much for this valuble information. I will pass it on and > make immediate use of this. > When you use Saudinet be sure and read the "get info" text first so as to get addressing right. -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/18/91 20:51:25 Michael Bean All CD Specials... CD Special... AMUG has negotiated a SPECIAL pricing schedule for CD players and the "BBS in a BOX" CD. This CD contains all of the AMUG "Best of" disks, Apple Technical notes, System software, HyperCard 2.0, the AMUG Show, newsletter, and Library stacks plus ALL 6,750 FILES ON THE AMUG BBS! The CD contains descriptions of all the files in On Location and text file format. There are two options in this SPECIAL OFFER! 1). Purchase the Apple CD drive for $649.00 and get the "BBS in a BOX" CD for FREE. 2). Purchase the NEC portable for $449.00 with Mac interface included and get the "BBS in a BOX" CD for FREE. (a little slower drive.) The "BBS in a BOX" CD retails at $99.00 and is a great value. There is no better way to collect all the software, reviews, news, etc. AMUG has to offer than to participate in this one time offer. To order send the amount above plus appropriate sales tax to AMUG, CD Special offer, 718 E. Campbell Ave., Gilbert, AZ 85234. For further information call Michael Bean at (602) 892-5454. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/19/91 04:09:00 Lawson English Michael Bean RE: System 6.0.7 Michael Bean writes in a message to Lawson English MB> .0.7 will not run properly on older machines. It has some ROM MB> calls that are incompatable. I would stronly suggest you not MB> try 6.0.7 on an older mac. I have heard the above from oodles of people, but Apple maintains differently. What specifically have you found/heard, and where from and etc? I'm documenting my claim in an on-going discussion with the Apple-flamer... Lawson --- COUNTERPoint Silver 1.02 * Origin: Macs 'R' Fun (1:300/15.88) E •|AMUG 02/20/91 04:26:07 Tom Deasey James Pacek RE: Macintosh Upgrade Advice I know of and have heard of several people who are buying original 128k for collectors pieces. You should look into that. --Tom But you probably claim more off your taxes donating it. Then selling it. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Another Point of View from Scottsdale!!!, Scottsdale, AZ (1:114/56.9) E •|AMUG 02/22/91 15:14:18 Michael Bean All Reviews... AMUG Newsletter Reviews... Over the years the AMUG Newsletter has always needed articles and tidbits of information. In order to establish a program to enhance the desire to review software for AMUG News the following program is in place: Each month in the President's desk I will list software packages available for review by AMUG members. Reviews for the products listed will be expected within 30-45 days of receipt of the package. The member who reviews the product will have the option to purchase the reviewed item at 20% of retail value. This equates to 80% off the retail price! This program will help AMUG members acquire valuable software packages at a minimal cost, others to try before they buy and provide software for our annual AMUG fund raiser/auction as well. If you are interested in this program call Michael Bean at (602) 892-5454 for further information. Software that is available for review currently includes: 1). MidiPlay - HyperCard Midi player from Opcode 2). Big Time TV - HyperPro animation frame by frame for video interface. 3). Screen Gems - ColorDesk, Dimmer, Switch-a-Roo 4). Cinderella - Kids Story CD 5). Retrospect Remote - AppleTalk backup for up to 10 users 6). HyperTools#1 - 20 tools for HC 2.0 7). HyperTools#2 - 20 tools for HC 2.0 8). Freedom of the Press - Postscript Language Interpreter 9). TouchBASE - The personal contacts database. 10). Reports 2.0 - Complete viewing and printing solution for HyperCard. 11). Maxima - Memory extension utility and ram disk from Connectix 12). Data Merge - table importation - technical writing. 13). 1 Shot WorkSheet -Forms, SpreadSheet and calculator. 14). 911 Utilities - 1st Aid, undelete, Sector Collector, Virex 15). HyperCOM - Appletalk communication for HyperCard. 16). On Cue - the ultimate file launcher. 17). Easy Share - Network file sharing. 18). Smartcom II - Macintosh Telecommunications 19). HayesConnect - modem sharing networks. 20). calenDAR - Personal reminder software 21). Amazing Paint - full featured Paint Program. 22). Norton Utilities - Tools to protect data. 23). SAM - AntiVirus protection. Reviews in progress: 1). Interface - Hank Harken 2). Desk - Alex Podressoff 3). 101 Scripts for HyperCard - Mike Atanasio 4). StarLight - Doug Castor 5). Avery MacLabel Pro - Don Ascoli 6). HyperExternals Pro - Tom Deasey 7). SnapJot - John Robinett 8). MacPhonebook - Ken Kelley (961-4475) 9). Virtual 2.0 - Van Bethancourt 10). Mirah - Gary Fields 11). Macintax - Michael Stephenson 12). Panorama - Mike and Lea Bromley 13). Editorial Advisor - Chardoni 14). HyperTalk 2.0 - Mike O'Boyle 15). SUM II 2.0 - Steve West 16). Ventura Publisher - Gary Fields 17). HyperGraph - Betty Field 931-4486 18). The Quark XPress Book - Gary Fields 19). HDI CD Player - Leslie Thomas 20). Empower II - Gary Fields 22). OrchidFaxModem - PamelaRacich 23). Mac Cheese - Avelardo Movlinet 24). Chesire - Ralph Richardson Hope you can join this list too! -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/23/91 00:03:44 Michael Bean All Font needed... I recieved this message recently. Does anyone have this font so it could be uploaded? CZ> Date: 2/22/91 10:29:29 PM CZ> CZ> To: Michael Bean CZ> CZ> From: Chuck Zillweger CZ> CZ> Subject: HyperCard 2.0 CZ> CZ> CZ> I purchased a copy of Hypercard 2.0 Last night (2/21/91> at the CZ> meeting and the font file is empty. I just would like to know if CZ> that is the way it should be or should there be at least a few CZ> fonts in it. Everytime I bring Hypercard 2.0 up, it says that I CZ> need to load panantino (sounds like) 24 to view all cards CZ> correctly. Please let me know if I can get it through the BBS or if CZ> I need to pick it up at a later date. CZ> CZ> The meeting was very informative and educational. That was the CZ> first of many meetings that I hope to attend. Your should give CZ> yourself a pat on the back for the professional job the group is CZ> doing. CZ> CZ> Thank You, CZ> CZ> Chuck Zillweger Thanks, -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/23/91 06:39:09 Bruce Long Michael Bean Re: Font needed... The Palatino screen fonts are already on this BBS, as AdobePalat E •|AMUG 02/23/91 09:00:47 Gary Fields Lawson English RE: System 6.0.7 > Michael Bean writes in a message to Lawson English > > MB> .0.7 will not run properly on older machines. It has some ROM > MB> calls that are incompatable. I would stronly suggest you not > MB> try 6.0.7 on an older mac. > > I have heard the above from oodles of people, but Apple maintains differently. > > What specifically have you found/heard, and where from and etc? > > > I'm documenting my claim in an on-going discussion with the Apple-flamer... > > I went to an Apple Resource Coordinators Meeting 6 weeks ago and Apple at that meeting said definitely not to use 6.07 on any machine other than Si, LC, or classic!!! --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.20) E •|AMUG 02/23/91 23:09:47 Michael Bean Bruce Long Re: Font needed... > The Palatino screen fonts are already on this BBS, as > AdobePalat > I hope that is what he is looking for... I'll pass it along... Thanks, -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/25/91 14:13:04 James Pacek Tom Deasey 128k MacCollectables Tom, What do these people pay for these collectables? The Mac 128k really belongs to my parents and they might not let me sell it. I bought, (really ordered) a Mac Classic the other day, and either way it doesn't matter to me. I'll just give it back to them. Of course if the price is right . . . they just might want to sell. --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: Kitty's Sandbox (45:516/102) (42:1002/4) (6:6008/6) (1:114/110) E •|AMUG 02/26/91 02:11:47 Michael Bean All Gulf Mail PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 22 February, 1991 FREE ELECTRONIC MAIL TO THE PERSIAN GULF The Seattle Macintosh Downtown Business Users Group (dBUG), the Seattle Public Library, and the local Bellevue office of Apple Computer, in cooperation with General Electric and GE Information Services, offers free electronic mail to Armed Forces service personnel serving in the Persian Gulf region. dBUG is providing access to two Macintosh computers located at the downtown location of the Seattle Public Library for families and friends to send letters to personnel in the Persian Gulf. No knowledge of computers is required and volunteers are available to assist families with questions and operations if necessary. The Letters from Home station is located on the first floor behind the Information Desk (Fourth Avenue entrance) at the downtown branch of the Seattle Public Library. Hours of operation are: Monday through Thursday 4pm to 9pm, closed Friday, Saturday 11am to 6pm, and Sunday 1pm to 5pm. There is no charge for the service and is available to anyone wishing to send an electronic letter to personnel in Operation Desert Storm. Before mailing a Letter from Home, the sender must know the following information about the intended recipient: Name & Rank, Social Security Number, Unit or Ship Name, APO or FPO Number. The letter cannot be sent without the above information. Each letter may contain up to 40 lines of text with a maximum of 80 characters on each line. BACKGROUND According to the U.S. Military in a UPI news report on 2/15/91, the volume of mail destined to troops in Operation Desert Storm is causing delivery delays. In fact, U.S. Central Command has extended a request that family and friends of Desert Storm personnel voluntarily limit personal mail to first-class letters. "Transportation and supply lines that are used to carry mail - vehicles, trucks and planes - are also being utilized to carry combat related equipment and supplies," said Air Force Maj. Mark Rader, public affairs officer of the Military Postal Service Agency. "The mail is competing with other equally important resources now in that limited space." Instead of clogging up the printed mail service, the Letters from Home service sends letters electronically to the troops via GE Information Services' worldwide teleprocessing network to GE's local telecommunications facility in Saudi Arabia. The letters are received and printed on computers and printers supplied by GE Rents. The mail are then folded, and sealed in envelopes using state-of-the-art equipment provided by Pitney Bowes. This occurs within 48 hours of the message's having been typed in Seattle. The letters are given to the U.S. Armed Forces for delivery to the designated serviceperson. The Seattle Macintosh Downtown Business Users Group (dBUG) is an educational non-profit corporation dedicated to collecting and disseminating information about the use of the Macintosh computer in the workplace. Information regarding membership and meetings is available via the dBUG Hotline at (206) 624-9329. Letters from Home, offered in cooperation with the GEnie Online Information Service, the U.S. Armed Forces, the Saudi American General Electric Company, GE Rents and Pitney Bowes Inc., allows any individuals in the United States with access to a personal computer and modem to send personal messages to loved ones serving in the Persian Gulf region. Although it uses the GEnie Online service, no GEnie account is necessary. All access and phone charges are free. For further information: Andrew Johnston, President, Seattle Macintosh Downtown Business Users Group (dBUG) (206) 232-0753 GEnie Information Services (800) 638-9636 --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/26/91 02:11:47 Michael Bean All KIWI Special... KIWI Finder Special... AMUG members may buy KIWI Finder extender at a 50% discount until April 30, 1991 from Josie McCullagh at (805) 685-4031. This program ads a button to your open file dialog box that allows you to view your files by your criteria, sophisticated searching, use keywords to group files, and more. KIWI is located at 6546 Paradall Road, Santa Barbara, CA 93117. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/26/91 12:01:56 Michael Bean James Pacek RE: 128k MacCollectables > Tom, > What do these people pay for these collectables? The Mac 128k > really belongs to my parents and they might not let me sell it. I > bought, (really ordered) a Mac Classic the other day, and either way it > doesn't matter to me. I'll just give it back to them. Of course if the > price is right . . . they just might want to sell. > How about 25 cents <grin> --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/27/91 15:15:39 Michael Bean All Reviews... AMUG Newsletter Reviews... Over the years the AMUG Newsletter has always needed articles and tidbits of information. In order to establish a program to enhance the desire to review software for AMUG News the following program is in place: Each month in the President's desk I will list software packages available for review by AMUG members. Reviews for the products listed will be expected within 30-45 days of receipt of the package. The member who reviews the product will have the option to purchase the reviewed item at 20% of retail value. This equates to 80% off the retail price! This program will help AMUG members acquire valuable software packages at a minimal cost, others to try before they buy and provide software for our annual AMUG fund raiser/auction as well. If you are interested in this program call Michael Bean at (602) 892-5454 for further information. Software that is available for review currently includes: 1). MidiPlay - HyperCard Midi player from Opcode 2). Big Time TV - HyperPro animation frame by frame for video interface. 3). Screen Gems - ColorDesk, Dimmer, Switch-a-Roo 4). Cinderella - Kids Story CD 5). Retrospect Remote - AppleTalk backup for up to 10 users 6). HyperTools#1 - 20 tools for HC 2.0 7). HyperTools#2 - 20 tools for HC 2.0 8). Freedom of the Press - Postscript Language Interpreter 9). TouchBASE - The personal contacts database. 10). Reports 2.0 - Complete viewing and printing solution for HyperCard. 11). Maxima - Memory extension utility and ram disk from Connectix 12). Data Merge - table importation - technical writing. 13). 1 Shot WorkSheet -Forms, SpreadSheet and calculator. 14). 911 Utilities - 1st Aid, undelete, Sector Collector, Virex 15). HyperCOM - Appletalk communication for HyperCard. 16). On Cue - the ultimate file launcher. 17). Easy Share - Network file sharing. 18). Smartcom II - Macintosh Telecommunications 19). HayesConnect - modem sharing networks. 20). calenDAR - Personal reminder software 21). Amazing Paint - full featured Paint Program. 22). Norton Utilities - Tools to protect data. 23). SAM - AntiVirus protection. 24). KIWI Finder - Hard Disk Organization & Retrieval Tool 25). Ultra Paint from Deneba --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 02/28/91 02:12:27 Donald Lloyd Jr All Microphone II Scripting Does anyone know anyone who knows anything about scripting in Microphone II?????? I have read the manuals & Docs but come up empty-handed when it comes to doing anything myself??? This is most frustrating as it seems that this is a powerful TC package. If not Microphone then what?? Suggestions?? Donald Lloyd Jr --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: Tiger's Den/Phoenix - (6:6008/1) (1:114/27) E •|AMUG 03/01/91 03:04:16 Tom Deasey Tom Deasey RE: Macintosh Upgrade Advice That is true. I hear the going rate is about 200 dollars. You could claim at least twice or three times that off your taxes but I don't know my wifes the CPA I would have to ask her. --Tom --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Another Point of View from Scottsdale!!!, Scottsdale, AZ (1:114/56.9) E •|AMUG 03/02/91 04:54:41 Dorman Bullard Donald Lloyd Jr Re: Microphone II Scripting > Does anyone know anyone who knows anything about scripting in > MicroPhone II???? I know a little. It has been some time since I have done anything complex but maybe I can help. Send me private mail (on AMUG or Tiger) with your telephone number. In the meantime, if what you are trying to do is not too large, you might put it here in a message, that is just post that portion of your script that is a problem. If the script is too large, then upload. Maybe someone will get interested and download it to work it a bit. Pending the above, one tip is that sometimes the Mac Moves too fast for your script (or vice versa). Put in a "Wait" command for some number of seconds. Experiment to reduce the wait to the minimum necessary. Another tip is that if you are looking for certain text to appear on the screen, make sure you don't overlook the spaces in the text. Good luck............. E •|AMUG 03/02/91 06:20:29 James Pacek Michael Bean RE: 128k MacCollectables But seriously, I'm really curious . . . \ / \ / ___ ___ \ /\ / \ / /\ \ ___ \ / \ / \/ /--\ \ \ \/ \/ ___ / \ \ \ ___ ================================================= --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: Kitty's Sandbox (45:516/102) (42:1002/4) (6:6008/6) (1:114/110) E •|AMUG 03/02/91 21:48:06 Dave Furey All mac C programming question Help !!!! Can someone help me jump-start my brain ? This always seems to happen when I layoff programming for a while. The sample C source code below is what I am using to test the PBGetFInfo() mac toolbox routine. It seems to work ok, except, when I try to copy the variable, "fparamblk.ioNamePtr" into a C string. I've tried, strcpy(aa,fparamblk.ioNamePtr); PtoCstr(aa); but a stray pointer seems to lock-up my system. This is probably a simple question, but I find it hard to begin talking (mac toolbox)->(pascal)->(C) once again. Can someone help me?? Please ?? Thanks ..... #include <ToolboxUtil.h> #include <stdio.h> main() { long int freebytes; FileParam fparamblk; int vRefNum, drvNum; Str255 vn; OSErr err; drvNum = 0; err = GetVInfo ( drvNum, &vn, &vRefNum, &freebytes ); fparamblk.ioVRefNum = vRefNum; fparamblk.ioFDirIndex = 1; err = PBGetFInfo ( &fparamblk, 0 ); printf("\n file number = %ld\n",fparamblk.ioFlNum); } E •|AMUG 03/02/91 23:41:36 Michael Bean All AMUG Preferred Echoes Well...it's finally up! This message was written from the AMUG Preferred Echoes folder using the AMUG icon. Now all messages on AMUG I are echoed to Preferred and back! To post echo mail on AMUG Preferred just click on the "Echoes" conference icon, then select your message section and post away! To post Netmail from Preferred: 1). Enter "Netmail" in the To: Field 2). Put the persons name on the first line of text that it goes to. 3). On the second line put the node #. So a post to Alan Heflich on AMUG Preferred Net mail would read in the text: Alan Heflich 114/53 Hi Alan this is a message for you blah... blah... Good Luck! -Michael --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG Preferred - GIGYBYE/38,200 - (602) 926-4026 (1:114/978) E •|AMUG 03/03/91 02:55:18 Roger Austin All newsletter I was wondering if the newsletter was printed on recycled paper? If not let's consider it. E •|AMUG 03/04/91 02:27:31 Michael Bean Roger Austin RE: newsletter > I was wondering if the newsletter was printed on recycled paper? If not > let's consider it. Lea, Are you listening? Get me a quote on recycled paper if so.... Thanks, -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/04/91 03:23:32 Edward Packer Michael Bean Re: AMUG Preferred Echoes I'm glad you brought up the AMUG Prefered BBS. I have successfully logged on using the "Guest" ID and password. Now that I have paid the dues to participate, I seem to not be able to change the password in the logon. When I choose the selection in the menu it is "greyed". So what do I need to do? Thanks. --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: Tiger's Den/Phoenix - (6:6008/1) (1:114/27) E •|AMUG 03/04/91 04:19:30 Eric Hegstrom All Software controled drag I posted a message here a few months ago about my attempts to drag the cursor from application control ( Such as how a macro recorder does). This will allow me to run macros from a DA for selecting menu items and moving finder icons around. I can move the cursor via software control by manipulating low level memory globals. I am having some luck on machines with ADBs but on the MacPlus I am having no luck whatsoever. I have looked at some code that mucks with the VIA buffers (vDirB & vBufB) but it doesn't seem to help me. I would appreciate any thoughts, info, code, or anything... P.S. to clarify, I have tried all the intuitive ways first (i.e posting standard event etc...) - Eric Hegstrom via the TAC BBS in Tucson, AZ --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: ===Tucson Apple Core=== (1:300/15) E •|AMUG 03/04/91 10:09:34 Gary Fields Roger Austin RE: newsletter > I was wondering if the newsletter was printed on recycled paper? If not > let's consider it. > It has been considered and when the price drops to a resonable amount we probably will. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.20) E •|AMUG 03/04/91 16:58:04 Michael Bean Edward Packer Re: AMUG Preferred Echoes > I'm glad you brought up the AMUG Prefered BBS. I have successfully logged > on using the "Guest" ID and password. Now that I have paid the dues to > participate, I seem to not be able to change the password in the logon. > When I choose the selection in the menu it is "greyed". So what do I need > to do? Thanks. Your AMUG Preferred account shows you have never logged on. Log on with a name of Edward Packer and the same password you have on AMUGI. You cannot change the Guest account password or no one else could log on as a Guest. -Michael Bean 892-5454 --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/04/91 16:58:04 Michael Bean All AMUG Preferred Central Phoenix line... Hello everyone! Well we have 75 AMUG preferred users now! I have called the phone company and effective 3-19-91 you will have a central Phoenix line for AMUG Preferred. The new central Phoenix number for preferred is 437-9622. This line will cost the group $35 extra per month but we hope to make it up in more memberships for AMUG Preferred! This new phone line will be in addition to the existing 926-4026 not in replacement of. So now, (March 19, 1991) AMUG Preferred is a 2 line system with capabilities for 8 more lines. Hope you enjoy these new features and the new echoes on AMUG Preferred! -Michael Bean 892-5454 --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/05/91 06:59:57 Chris Gehlker Dave Furey mac C programming question DF> Help !!!! Can someone help me jump-start my brain Dave, Check out the sample below: #include <stdio.h> #include <string.h> main() { long int freebytes; FileParam fparamblk; int vRefNum, drvNum; Str255 vn, itsName; OSErr err; drvNum = 0; err = GetVInfo ( drvNum, &vn, &vRefNum, &freebytes ); fparamblk.ioCompletion = NULL; fparamblk.ioNamePtr = itsName; fparamblk.ioVRefNum = vRefNum; fparamblk.ioFVersNum = 0; fparamblk.ioFDirIndex = 1; err = PBGetFInfo ( &fparamblk, false ); printf("\n file number = %ld\n",fparamblk.ioFlNum); printf("%s\n", PtoCstr((char *) itsName)); } I always initialize every part of the parameter block that IM says to intiialize. In particurlar, fparamblk.ioNamePtr must either be NULL, which means that you don't care about the name, or it must contain a pointer to some space where the toolbox can put the name. If ioNamePtr contains some random garbage, the toolBox will write the name whereever that points. --- COUNTERPoint Gold 1.08 * Origin: What's the Point? (1:114/56.12) E •|AMUG 03/06/91 08:48:26 Jim Drye All NEW MAC/IBM BBS There is a guy who has made a BBS with both IBM And MAC sections It's called the Omni BBS and the number is 890-0640 Try it. E •|AMUG 03/06/91 13:26:09 Dorman Bullard All Macintosh Programmer Needed A Macintosh Programmer is needed to write a serial port driver for a peripheral device. For information call: Rick Kopp Days: 948-6540 Eves: 820-7846 E •|AMUG 03/06/91 15:11:06 Hank Harken All MMInit On page 44 of MacWeek dated 2/26/91, David Ramsey's column discusses a MMInit startup that corrects memory management problems in the CI, FX, SI, and LC ROMs. According to Ramsey, the mm problems do not cause serious problems (no crashing) but the init improves memory allocation speed. . Is is possible for anyone to get hold of this init? It was written by a member of Apple's Developer Technical Support Group and is supposedly available through them. . We've gotten some SI's at work and will probably get a CI very soon. Sure would like to incorporate the init into those system folders. . Hank E •|AMUG 03/06/91 16:03:37 Hank Harken All disk partitioning Is anyone out there using software to partition hard drives ? . What has worked well for you ? . Is there any problems I should be aware of ? I'm thinking about partitioning a hard drive that an AppleShare file server would be using. . thanks E •|AMUG 03/06/91 18:08:43 Dave Furey Chris Gehlker Re: mac C programming question >> Dave, Check out the sample below: Chris, you came through again! Thanks for that "jump-start". It's always hard for me get started again after a big layoff. It's nice to have AMUG members around to answer "hard" questions. Thanks again ... E •|AMUG 03/07/91 00:12:59 Rick Foster Hank Harken Re: MMInit The NNMMInit was included in the discs at the last meeting. I've installed it on my SI and it does seem to increase the speed of some programs. I can't remember the exact disc number, but someone out there should know. Rick E •|AMUG 03/07/91 12:25:57 Michael Bean Jim Drye RE: NEW MAC/IBM BBS > There is a guy who has made a BBS with both IBM And MAC sections > It's called the Omni BBS and the number is 890-0640 > Try it. > What type of computer is the BBS run on? --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/07/91 12:25:57 Michael Bean Hank Harken RE: MMInit > On page 44 of MacWeek dated 2/26/91, David Ramsey's column discusses a > MMInit startup that corrects memory management problems in the CI, FX, SI, > and LC ROMs. According to Ramsey, the mm problems do not cause serious > problems (no crashing) but the init improves memory allocation speed. > . > Is is possible for anyone to get hold of this init? It was written by a > member of Apple's Developer Technical Support Group and is supposedly > available through them. > . > We've gotten some SI's at work and will probably get a CI very soon. Sure > would like to incorporate the init into those system folders. > . > Hank > We have had it here in the utility section since 1-21-91. Here is the info: -------------------------------- MemoryMgrIni Util section Memory Mgr Init.Sit 18K 1/21/91 Seems that the several of the later Mac II models (ci,si,fx) and also the Mac LC have a bug in their roms which affects the performance of the Apple memory manager. This INIT from Apple should correct the problem. ----------------------------------- -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/07/91 12:25:57 Michael Bean Hank Harken RE: disk partitioning > Is anyone out there using software to partition hard drives ? > . > What has worked well for you ? > . > Is there any problems I should be aware of ? I'm thinking about > partitioning a hard drive that an AppleShare file server would be using. > . > thanks > Hank, I use to use HD partition by FWB but found their support was lacking and you can easily break their passwords with Fedit, and it has a 32meg limitation in size. I HIGHLY recommend MultiDisk by Alsop as it's partitions are resizable, does not have a 32 meg limitation, and I have not learned to crack the passwords yet..<grin>.. I love it and yes it works with Appleshare! -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/07/91 16:12:31 Hank Harken Rick Foster Re: MMInit Thanks, if it isn't on the board, I'll pick it up at the next meeting. E •|AMUG 03/07/91 16:14:44 Hank Harken Michael Bean RE: MMInit Thanks, Mike, I'll get the MMInit off the board right away. . AMUG to the rescue ! E •|AMUG 03/07/91 16:15:39 Hank Harken Michael Bean RE: disk partitioning Great, I'm going to look into your software suggestion E •|AMUG 03/07/91 21:45:46 Karl Keierleber Hank Harken Re: disk partitioning I have been using the partioning that comes with mac tools by central point software.. works well it even survived a hard drive crash.. I would give it the ol stamp of approval.. it uses an init and da combo to access.. alot of user defined features( size, access protection,ect) i have been happy with the whole mac tools package.. well worth the price E •|AMUG 03/08/91 03:11:00 Michael Bean Karl Keierleber Re: disk partitioning > I have been using the partioning that comes with mac tools by central > point software.. works well it even survived a hard drive crash.. I > would give it the ol stamp of approval.. it uses an init and da combo > to access.. alot of user defined features( size, access protection,ect) > i have been happy with the whole mac tools package.. well worth the > price > Try making a partition over 32 megs Karl, will it do it? Are they resizable? And if its really Hard Disk Partition as I suspect I'll train you how to break into it in the Hard disk recovery class on May 4, 1991 ,<grin>. Don't get me wrong I really liked the program initially and recommended it several times but I needed bigger partitions, and at least when my users lost there passwords I could bust the partitions wide open. -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/08/91 04:04:36 Chris Zactly All any help with a compiler??? Hello, MY NAME IS CHRIS ZACTLY... I HAVE A IBM OLDY ITT EXTRA WITH LITTLE HELP IN SOFTWARE...PRIMARILY MY GOAL IS TO FIND THRU SHAREWARE OR FREEWARE A COMPILER THAT SUPPORTS GWBASIC FOR THE IBM...I HAVE MEGA SOFTWARE THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPILED, BUT OF COURSE IBM DOESN'T HAVE MUCH ON COMPILERS...IS THERE ANYONE THAT CAN HELP ZAC OUT??? I HAVE ART FILES AND FONTS TO OFFER OF COURSE SHAREWARE...IF YOU CAN HELP LEAVE ME A MESSAGE OR JOE ARISTY A MESSAGE... THANKS CHRIS ZACTLY --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG2 BBS*A GREAT MUG*ScottsdaleAz-602/947-0587 = (1:114/53) E •|AMUG 03/08/91 07:53:55 Jim Crosson All Need Help With Tape Drive I have a 40mb tape drive with a 3m label on it. The docs say Data Cartridge Technology, and the model # is MCD-40/SCSI. My problem is that I don"t have any software to format the tapes. The people I got it from said any HD software wold work--WRONG. I tried apples harddisk software and it couldn"t even find the drive. My applecrate software found the drive and id# but would not format. I could use some help.........Thanks. E •|AMUG 03/09/91 05:51:04 Lawrence Lee Hank Harken disk partitioning Hank Harken writes in a message to All on 06 Mar 91 HH> Is anyone out there using software to partition hard drives ? HH> . What has worked well for you I use La Cie's SilverLining. Tech support has been great (though only needed once). I've read articles which give it the highest ranking of all such software. I like it. Lots. =LAWRENCE= --- COUNTERPoint Gold 1.08 * Origin: Mama told me not to Point! (1:300/15.1) E •|AMUG 03/09/91 08:09:36 Chris Gehlker Eric Hegstrom Software controled drag EH> I posted a message here a few months ago about my attempts to EH> drag the cursor from application control ( Such as how a macro EH> recorder does). This will allow me to run macros from a DA for EH> selecting menu items and moving finder icons around. I can move EH> the cursor via software control by manipulating low level memory EH> globals. I am having some luck on machines with ADBs but on the EH> MacPlus I am having no luck whatsoever Here is how I move the mouse to a point called "TabPoint": MTemp = tabPoint; RawMouse = tabPoint; CrsrNew = -1; On a Plus, a VBL task will debounce the mouse button unless you pin it down. I use the following routines: void pinButton(void) { register char *direction = VIA + vDirB; register char *mouseBit = VIA + vBufB; register char VIADir; register char switchBit; VIADir = *direction; VIADir = 0x8; *direction = VIADir; switchBit = *mouseBit; switchBit &= 0xF7; *mouseBit = switchBit; } void unPinButton(void) { register char *direction = VIA + vDirB; register char VIADir; VIADir = *direction; VIADir &= 0xF7; *direction = VIADir; } --- COUNTERPoint Gold 1.08 * Origin: What's the Point? (1:114/56.12) E •|AMUG 03/09/91 08:40:29 Chris Gehlker Dave Furey Re: mac C programming question DF> Chris, you came through again! Thanks for that "jump-start". DF> It's always hard for me get started again after a big layoff. DF> It's nice to have AMUG members around to answer "hard" questions. De nada, Dave. That's what AMUG is about. --- COUNTERPoint Gold 1.08 * Origin: What's the Point? (1:114/56.12) E •|AMUG 03/09/91 11:57:07 Michael Bean All Please Vote! FROM: Bob Nordling TO: All SUBJ: Election For MUGADMIN Moderator DATE: 03/06/91 TIME: 07:46:00 AREA: MACSYSOP CANDIDATES FOR MUGADMIN MODERATOR voting begins 3/7 ends 3/21 send vote (1 per BBS or point) to: Bob Nordling @1:396/13 In your message, include your name, fidonet address, and if you wish the listing of your vote to remain anonymous, then include a code word. In 2 weeks I will post a listing of votes received along with the final tally: (node, candidate voted for) or (code word, candidate voted for)...also will include a list of all nodes which voted. The 3 candidates which were nominated: Michael Bean Larry Bowdish Bob Seaver Candidates can post a campaign speech/resume/vision for MUGADMIN here. Here's to a bright future for MUGADMIN! Bob Nordling Election Central 1:396/13 New Orleans MUG ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If you are a point or a BBS on the AMUG system please vote! I really want opportunity to turn the MUGADMIN echo around into an echo that can really share information and help all of our fellow user groups. I would also like to get our AMUG Volunteers participating in this echo as well. I will make this echo available to all. -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/09/91 20:06:56 Edward Packer Michael Bean Re: AMUG Preferred Echoes Mike, I have attempted to change the password in the "Preferred" software. Each time I make the change, the software does not accept the change. The result is that I am unable to logon to the BBS. I will try to make the correction again. E •|AMUG 03/10/91 05:51:23 Lawson English Michael Bean RE: MMInit Here's something I pulled off of MacDev about this... ******************************************************************************* > Bill, > If you haven't heard about it already Apple DTS strongly recommends > *NOT* using the MMInit that made it's way onto the big on-line services (and > many BBSs). It turns out that the INIT actually *slows* most machines down > instead of speeding them up. The INIT was never supposed to leave Apple but > somehow it did. After trying it w/ a IIci I can say I didn't see any > performance increase with it. I don't buy it-- I saw lots of benchmarks of various programs on UseNet and a local BBS (not the one I'm a point off of, in case Apple.lawyers are looking), and it seems to SUBSTANTIALLY speed the IIci and IIfx, with certain programs, and make little difference in others. ******************************************************************************* You makes your choices and takes your chances. Lawson --- COUNTERPoint Silver 1.02 * Origin: Macs 'R' Fun (1:300/15.88) E •|AMUG 03/10/91 11:47:40 Gary Fields Hank Harken RE: disk partitioning > Is there any problems I should be aware of ? I'm thinking about > partitioning a hard drive that an AppleShare file server would be using. > . SilverLining by LaCie is great software, it has been rated A+++ and my experience is the same. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.20) E •|AMUG 03/10/91 11:47:40 Gary Fields Michael Bean RE: disk partitioning > Hank, > I use to use HD partition by FWB but found their support was lacking and you > can easily break their passwords with Fedit, and it has a 32meg limitation in > size. > > I HIGHLY recommend MultiDisk by Alsop as it's partitions are resizable, does > not have a 32 meg limitation, and I have not learned to crack the passwords > yet..<grin>.. > > I love it and yes it works with Appleshare! > This is also a good one but does not hold a candle to SilverLining and its fantastic formating software. SilverLining is true partitioning, no problems with multiple systems, each partition is a separate drive. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.20) E •|AMUG 03/10/91 19:28:48 Karl Keierleber Michael Bean Re: disk partitioning It is resizeable..as long is there is contigious free space... I'll check into the max size...as far as secruity there is password protection ...which I'm sure an old Mac Guru could bypass ;)..however it does have a built in encrypt feature that they claim offers hi-secruity... the soft ware builds basicly an invisable file..you can see with file edit i Just read the manual it states no max size as long as the the hd has free contiguous free space.....thats the manual speaking the reality may say otherwise. I'll see you at your class.....always ready to pickup new tricks for an old dog E •|AMUG 03/11/91 02:09:00 Michael Bean Edward Packer Re: AMUG Preferred Echoes > Mike, I have attempted to change the password in the "Preferred" software. > Each time I make the change, the software does not accept the change. > The result is that I am unable to logon to the BBS. I will try to make > the correction again. > Are you logging on as a guest or as Edward Packer. If you log on as a guest you will be unable to change the password however if you log on as Edward Packer with the same password you have on AMUG I it will work fine. If you still have troubles call me at 892-5454. By the way, I show that you have not logged on as Edward Packer. -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/11/91 02:09:00 Michael Bean Lawson English RE: MMInit > > Here's something I pulled off of MacDev about this... > > ****************************************************************************** > * > Bill, > > If you haven't heard about it already Apple DTS strongly recommends > > *NOT* using the MMInit that made it's way onto the big on-line services (and > > many BBSs). It turns out that the INIT actually *slows* most machines down > > instead of speeding them up. The INIT was never supposed to leave Apple but > > somehow it did. After trying it w/ a IIci I can say I didn't see any > > performance increase with it. > > I don't buy it-- I saw lots of benchmarks of various programs on UseNet and > a local BBS (not the one I'm a point off of, in case Apple.lawyers are > looking), and it seems to SUBSTANTIALLY speed the IIci and IIfx, with > certain programs, and make little difference in others. > ****************************************************************************** > * Thanks for that info Lawson! -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/11/91 02:09:00 Michael Bean Gary Fields RE: disk partitioning > This is also a good one but does not hold a candle to SilverLining and its > fantastic formating software. SilverLining is true partitioning, no problems > with multiple systems, each partition is a separate drive. But try increasing a partition size with Silver lining...<grin> also I have had several drives that needed to be recovered after SilverLining replaced its drivers. I just have problems with any software that when installed feels it needs to replace the manufactures drivers especially if they already work fine. If you just want partitioning and not new hard drive drivers MultiDisk is the best... --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/11/91 13:55:14 Alan Heflich All CD ROM with 7000 Files now on AMUG ][ THe AMUG CD RON is now mounted in the new file section 'under construction' on AMUG ][. I need some of you to try it out and discover any bugs for me. =Alan Just select <G>o to New Larger File area(under construction) --- Copernicus II [b6] * Origin: A Point of AMUG ][ - Part of the Az Macintosh Network - (1:114/53.1) E •|AMUG 03/11/91 19:23:42 Dorman Bullard All Apple Scanner for Sale Apple Scanner for sale. Essentially never been used. Includes cable and "Read It" software as well as scanning software. Owner is anxious to sell so make offer to: Phillip Anderson 1-474-2108 (In Payson, but scanner is in Phoenix) --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: A Point Worth Getting to. (1:114/56.4) E •|AMUG 03/12/91 08:21:45 Hank Harken All partitioning >>partitioning software<< . thanks to Mike, Karl, Gary, and Lawrence for the ideas on partitioning software. I appreciate the ideas, caveats, and discussion. E •|AMUG 03/12/91 08:29:08 Hank Harken All new Apple hardware I got word yesterday that Apple has introduced the two new printers that has been discussed in the computer press. One of them, the StyleWriter, looks like a great buy for the average person. 360 DPI ink jet, with a street price that will probably be under $600. . With the introduction of the new printers (and the possibility of other new stuff in that area later this year), Apple has reduced the prices of all of its other printers too. . The Mac IIci has also been reduced in price. In fact, you pay less and get more. You should be able to pay less and the system should have an additional 1 MB (total of 2 MB or 5 MB RAM depending on what you decide on). . If people want more specifics on the introduction, I can post them in a second message. E •|AMUG 03/12/91 13:15:49 Michael Bean Alan Heflich RE: CD ROM with 7000 Files now on AMUG ] > > > THe AMUG CD RON is now mounted in the new file section 'under construction' > on AMUG ][. I need some of you to try it out and discover any bugs for me. > > =Alan > > Just select <G>o to New Larger File area(under construction) > Seemed to work fine for me! --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/12/91 16:51:20 Gary Fields Michael Bean RE: Please Vote! > If you are a point or a BBS on the AMUG system please vote! I really want > opportunity to turn the MUGADMIN echo around into an echo that can really > share information and help all of our fellow user groups. I would also like to > get our AMUG Volunteers participating in this echo as well. I will make this > echo available to all. > How do we vote and how do we get on this echo? --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.20) E •|AMUG 03/12/91 23:23:01 Tom Deasey All For Sale I have an Imagewriter // for sale and a ThunderScan. They can be sold separatelyor together. Make me an offer. Tom Deasey 941-8500 --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Another Point of View from Scottsdale!!!, Scottsdale, AZ (1:114/56.9) E •|AMUG 03/13/91 03:12:30 Michael Bean Gary Fields RE: Please Vote! > How do we vote and how do we get on this echo? You can vote with Copernicus by adding Bob Nordling at 396/13 to your address book then send him private mail via Netmail in Copernicus. If you are on the BBS you Go E for private mail then C for chain to Fidomail then send to Bob Nordling at 396/13 registering your vote. MUGADMIN can be accessed from the combine message section on AMUG or just go to Edit areas under your File menu in Copernicus and ad MUGADMIN. Then tell me you have added it and I'll turn the echo on for you here for Copernicus... -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/13/91 06:39:58 Dorman Bullard Michael Bean RE: Please Vote! > > MUGADMIN can be accessed from the combine message section on AMUG > or just go to Edit areas under your File menu in Copernicus and ad MUGADMIN. > Then tell me you have added it and I'll turn the echo on for you here > for Copernicus... > > -Michael > > OK, I just added it to my areas. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: A Point Worth Getting to. (1:114/56.4) E •|AMUG 03/14/91 02:58:57 Michael Bean Dorman Bullard RE: Please Vote! > > > OK, I just added it to my areas. I just turned you on Dorman. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/14/91 03:45:54 Donald Lloyd Jr All Computer Systems Center On Mar.6 I visited Computer Systems Center on 16st. & Camelback. While I was talking to a salesman- A Mac se/30 owner- I asked him if he did alot of stuff on it. He replied that,"No , I bought a @@-### machine, Besides Macs are for GIRLS who write letters & do little stuff." I found this NOT highly amusing (I almost slapped him - to wake him up.) Has anyone else had this kind of insulting treatment at the hands of these "professional People"????? Don --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: *AMUG 2 * A link in the Az Mac Net-602/947-0587 = (1:114/53) E •|AMUG 03/14/91 06:45:04 Dorman Bullard Donald Lloyd Jr RE: Computer Systems Center > On Mar.6 I visited Computer Systems Center on 16st. & Camelback. While I > was talking to a salesman- A Mac se/30 owner- I asked him if he did alot > of stuff on it. He replied that,"No , I bought a @@-### machine, Besides > Macs are for GIRLS who write letters & do little stuff." > I found this NOT highly amusing (I almost slapped him - to wake > him up.) > Has anyone else had this kind of insulting treatment at the hands of these > "professional People"????? > Can't say that I have had that blatant a treatment from a computer salesman. I don't know the store; Does it sells Macintoshes? If so, I think I would have passed this information along to store management and maybe local Apple. That kind of attitude can't be helpful to the store or to the public. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: A Point Worth Getting to. 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He replied that,"No , I bought a @@-### machine, Besides > Macs are for GIRLS who write letters & do little stuff." > I found this NOT highly amusing (I almost slapped him - to wake > him up.) > Has anyone else had this kind of insulting treatment at the hands of these > "professional People"????? > no I was treated fine when I bought my mac there over a year and a half ago..Sounds like someone had a very bad day. E •|AMUG 03/16/91 06:12:30 Donald Lloyd Jr Dorman Bullard RE: Computer Systems Center >I don't know the store; Does it sells Macintoshes? Yes, it does, at least it has them available.... >If so, I think I would have passed this information along to storemanagement and maybe local Apple... I don't have any phone #'s to call or I would !!! This has me pretty upset! Don Jr --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: Tiger's Den/Phoenix - (6:6008/1) (1:114/27) E •|AMUG 03/16/91 06:12:30 Donald Lloyd Jr Bill Chilcoat w N ^ i ww' ('H q+ 0 # R Can anyone tell me what this is or means??? The past couple of times I have been on this echo, I have seen this kind of stuff.. Don Jr. --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: Tiger's Den/Phoenix - (6:6008/1) (1:114/27) E •|AMUG 03/17/91 06:56:46 Dorman Bullard Roger Austin RE: Computer Systems Center > > On Mar.6 I visited Computer Systems Center on 16st. & Camelback. While I > > was talking to a salesman- A Mac se/30 owner- I asked him if he did alot > > of stuff on it. He replied that,"No , I bought a @@-### machine, Besides > > Macs are for GIRLS who write letters & do little stuff." > > I found this NOT highly amusing (I almost slapped him - to wake > > him up.) > > Has anyone else had this kind of insulting treatment at the hands of > these > > > "professional People"????? > > > no I was treated fine when I bought my mac there over a year and a half > ago..Sounds like someone had a very bad day. > Although addressed to me, the above quotation was not mine. I responded to the above quoted post by stating that the person that this happened to should have reported it to the store management, and possibly to Apple (Apple is in the phonebook in Phoenix). This might help assure that the employee does have too many "bad days." --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: A Point Worth Getting to. (1:114/56.4) E •|AMUG 03/17/91 09:33:08 Jeffrey Gross Donald Lloyd Jr RE: Computer Systems Center I would very much like to speak with you Donald as I am an employee at Computer Systems Center at Camelback, have been involved deeply with AMUG and the Mac since its origins and would like to know what happened to have this taken care of. I am really concerned that any of our salespeople, whether a good day or not, would treat anyone with the lack of respect that you mention. Would you please contact myself at home at 835-6430 so that I may have this taken care of. I very much apologize for this situation and hope that this will not affect people's opinion of our store and just chalk it up to the stupidity(you can use a better word) of one of our salepersons. Thanks, Jeff Gross E •|AMUG 03/17/91 12:34:32 Shan Younker All HardDrive Hookup I have a Rodime 20 Plus HD and am having a hard time getting it to work. It used to be hooked up to a 512ke and worked just fine, but when I hooked it up to an SE the SE would not recognize it. I am afraid to hook it up to my CX for fear of damaging the SCSI port. I assume the drive does not need a SCSI terminator since the drive worked fine on the 512ke without one. Any suggestions would be appreciated. E •|AMUG 03/17/91 20:50:41 Dave Furey All What't a s a good FORTRAN compiler? Can anyone suggest a good FORTRAN compiler for the Mac? Looking through magazines ads in MacWorld, all I could find are C and Pascal compilers. I've got some small and large FORTRAN programs that I would like to port over to my Mac IIcx. Can anyone offer some suggestions?? Thanks ..... E •|AMUG 03/18/91 05:56:49 Michael Bean Donald Lloyd Jr w N ^ i ww' ('H q+ 0 > Can anyone tell me what this is or means??? >The past couple of times I have been on this echo, I have seen this kind >of stuff.. Don Jr. Don, Evidently Bill was having trouble with his modem... I have erased these messages from AMUG Preferred... _Michael --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG Preferred - GIGYBYE/38,400 - (602) 926-4026 (1:114/121) E •|AMUG 03/19/91 04:12:19 Alan Heflich Jeffrey Gross RE: Computer Systems Center > Jeff Gross Seems to me that I haven't sen or heard from you in soooooo long I almost forgot that you are :-? How about dropping in at the meeting this Thurs. =Alan --- COUNTERPoint Silver 1.02 * Origin: AMUG ][ Pointing to the Future - Scottsdale, AZ (1:114/53.1) E •|AMUG 03/19/91 05:12:43 Lawson English Michael Bean RE: MMInit Michael Bean writes in a message to Lawson English MB> Thanks for that info Lawson! MB> -Michael Here is some new info about MMInit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To: All From: Keith Rollin Subject: Re: MM Init Date: 17 Mar 91 at 09:16 From: keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) Date: 17 Mar 91 00:07:10 GMT Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA Message-ID: <50342@apple.Apple.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer In article <565@genco.bungi.com> rad@genco.bungi.com (Bob Daniel) writes: >Has the IIci ROMs been updated in newer IIci's so that the MM Init is no >longer needed? If so, what version of ROM has the fix? A friend of mine >just got a new IIci and was wondering if he needs to use the init. This is a copy of the letter I sent to Bob: Bob, IMHO, almost no one should need to be using MMInit. This is for several reasons which I'll list below, but first let me answer your question. No, the fix to the Memory Manager is not in any newer ROMs (Apple can't just quickly slap out new ROMs every day, you know), but a patch to the Memory Manager _is_ is System 7.0. As for the reasons why you shouldn't need to run MMInit: 1) Almost no applications are affected by the bug. There is only one that we know about, ProGraph. If you are not running that, then it is 99.99% likely that running the INIT will have no affect on your IIci. 2) The INIT is a duplicate of the Memory Manager in the IIci ROM, with the bug fixed. This duplicate includes other bugs in the Memory Manager that occur only in 32-bit mode. These problems are fixed in System 7.0 (which is the only way you can run in 32-bit mode), but if you run the INIT, you'll re-introduce those bugs into your Mac. 3) Even the problem with ProGraph is easily fixed. For reasons which are too elaborate to go into here, unlocking the CODE resources will speed up ProGraph's execution. As I understand it, there are still some problems with the applications that ProGraph creates, but it's possible that those could be fixed, too, eliminating the need for MMInit. 4) The INIT has shown some compatibility problems with some major 3rd party software. The symptoms of these problems include crashes into the debugger, mouse freezes, and the inability to boot your Macintosh. 5) Performance testing of the INIT gave inconclusive results as to its overall usefulness. Though speed deviances were mostly in the standard margin for error, there was some evidence that the INIT might actually be _slowing down_ some applications! With the exception of ProGraph and another as yet unreleased program, I know of no programs that have definitely shown that they run better with the INIT than without. This includes some of the most memory intensive applications I know, like MPW and 4th Dimension. Many people THOUGHT that the INIT sped things up, but when those operations were put under the stopwatch, it was found that those reports were invalid. People have also reported that their machines have stopped crashing, or don't crash as often, after they install the INIT. Well, that may be true, but not because of anything the INIT does. The INIT does not fix or address any crashing bugs in the Memory Manager -- and, as far as I know, there aren't any such bugs. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keith Rollin --- Apple Computer, Inc. INTERNET: keith@apple.com UUCP: {decwrl, hoptoad, nsc, sun, amdahl}!apple!keith "I don't work in DTS anymore, so don't expect what I say to be right." --- QM v1.23/b * Origin: St Joseph's Medical Center Phoenix (602) 235-9653 (1:114/15.0) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I just picked this off of USENET from a guy from Apple... The saga continues? \ Lawson --- COUNTERPoint Silver 1.02 * Origin: Macs 'R' Fun (1:300/15.88) E •|AMUG 03/19/91 10:04:17 Jeffrey Gross Alan Heflich RE: Computer Systems Center Alan, I have been coming to the last few meetings. I nomally get there a little early and join Dorothy in some wings. Then I mingle. I guess we just have not crossed paths in the last few months. Jeff P.S. See ya Thursday E •|AMUG 03/19/91 13:46:17 Michael Bean All AMUG Reviews... AMUG Newsletter Reviews... Over the years the AMUG Newsletter has always needed articles and tidbits of information. In order to establish a program to enhance the desire to review software for AMUG News the following program is in place: Each month in the President's desk I will list software packages available for review by AMUG members. Reviews for the products listed will be expected within 30-45 days of receipt of the package. The member who reviews the product will have the option to purchase the reviewed item at 20% of retail value. This equates to 80% off the retail price! This program will help AMUG members acquire valuable software packages at a minimal cost, others to try before they buy and provide software for our annual AMUG fund raiser/auction as well. If you are interested in this program call Michael Bean at (602) 892-5454 for further information. Software that is available for review currently includes: 1). MidiPlay - HyperCard Midi player from Opcode 2). Big Time TV - HyperPro animation frame by frame for video interface. 3). Cinderella - Kids Story CD 4). Retrospect Remote - AppleTalk backup for up to 10 users 5). HyperTools#1 - 20 tools for HC 2.0 6). HyperTools#2 - 20 tools for HC 2.0 7). Maxima - Memory extension utility and ram disk from Connectix 8). Data Merge - table importation - technical writing. 9). 1 Shot WorkSheet -Forms, SpreadSheet and calculator. 10). 911 Utilities - 1st Aid, undelete, Sector Collector, Virex 11). HyperCOM - Appletalk communication for HyperCard. 12). On Cue - the ultimate file launcher. 13). Easy Share - Network file sharing. 14). Smartcom II - Macintosh Telecommunications 15). HayesConnect - modem sharing networks. 16). calenDAR - Personal reminder software 17). Amazing Paint - full featured Paint Program. 18). SAM - AntiVirus protection. 19). KIWI Finder - Hard Disk Organization & Retrieval Tool 20). Ultra Paint - from Deneba 21). GraceLAN - Network Managers Quick Tour Guide 22). VETTE - Spectrum HoloByte Street race simulation 23). M.Y.O.B - Acounting software for the Mac. 24). Personal Press - Easy Page layout from Aldus. 25). The Book of MIDI - Hypercard MIDI educator from Opcode. 26). MIDI Translator - one in - three out for MIDI setup from Opcode. 27). MAX - MIDI graphic programing language from Opcode. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/20/91 16:45:51 Michael Bean All AMUG Preferred News! AMUG PREFERRED ADDS NEW CENTRAL PHOENIX LINE! Today, Wednesday March 20, 1991 AMUG Preferred added a second line for Central Phoenix use! This new line is available at (602) 437-9622. Now AMUG Preferred has a 38,400 BPS capability on line 1 at (602) 926-4026 using a Hayes Ultra and 9600 baud capability using an HST Dual Standard on line #2 at (602) 437-9622. --------------------------------------------- To join AMUG Preferred send $25 and your name and password to: AMUG 718 E. Campbell Ave. Gilbert, AZ 85234 (602) 892-5454 -Michael Bean --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/20/91 16:45:51 Michael Bean All AMUG Meeting March 21, 1991... In the coming months AMUG has many events planned. On March 21, 1991 AMUG will host Kodak, Xerox and Articulate systems. Kodak will show their new printers, and a graphic compression utility. Xerox will demonstrate its Ventura publishing program. Articulate systems will show several new ways to drive your Macintosh with voice control. This meeting will be at 7:00PM in Phoenix at the Howard Johnson Hotel, located at University and the Freeway. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/22/91 13:58:43 Clay Moore All help I would like someone to explain something.... I have stuffit ver 1.5.1, I downloaded a newsletter file, which showed up on the disk dir, as a document file with a .sit ext, I also dl'd a file called ufilm.sit, why wont stuffit recognize these files ?, when I click on them they load stuffit, but stuffit still does not see them ? also when I tried to look again I now get a disk error on one disk and and an error message about the disk needing repair, but the os cannot fix the desktop file, is there a PD prog that will fix it better than the os ? or a prog that will recover files off a seemingly bad disk ? any help will be appreciated.......a novice user..clay thanks --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG2-BBS*A GREAT MUG*ScottsdaleAz-602/947-0587 = (1:114/53) E •|AMUG 03/23/91 03:22:37 Michael Bean Clay Moore RE: help > I would like someone to explain something.... > I have stuffit ver 1.5.1, I downloaded a newsletter file, which showed up > on the disk dir, as a document file with a .sit ext, I also dl'd a file > called ufilm.sit, why wont stuffit recognize these files ?, when I click > on them they load stuffit, but stuffit still does not see them ? > also when I tried to look again I now get a disk error on one disk and and > an error message about the disk needing repair, but the os cannot fix the > desktop file, is there a PD prog that will fix it better than the os ? or > a prog that will recover files off a seemingly bad disk ? > any help will be appreciated.......a novice user..clay thanks > Sounds like an IBM'er... <grin>. Alan, This post came from your board is there anything special about these files...perhaps stuffit Delux or Classic compression? Thanks, -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/23/91 12:27:15 Michael Bean All Reviews... AMUG Newsletter Reviews... Over the years the AMUG Newsletter has always needed articles and tidbits of information. In order to establish a program to enhance the desire to review software for AMUG News the following program is in place: Each month in the President's desk I will list software packages available for review by AMUG members. Reviews for the products listed will be expected within 30-45 days of receipt of the package. The member who reviews the product will have the option to purchase the reviewed item at 20% of retail value. This equates to 80% off the retail price! This program will help AMUG members acquire valuable software packages at a minimal cost, others to try before they buy and provide software for our annual AMUG fund raiser/auction as well. If you are interested in this program call Michael Bean at (602) 892-5454 for further information. Software that is available for review currently includes: 1). MidiPlay - HyperCard Midi player from Opcode 2). Big Time TV - HyperPro animation frame by frame for video interface. 3). Cinderella - Kids Story CD 4). Retrospect Remote - AppleTalk backup for up to 10 users 5). HyperTools#1 - 20 tools for HC 2.0 6). HyperTools#2 - 20 tools for HC 2.0 7). Maxima - Memory extension utility and ram disk from Connectix 8). Data Merge - table importation - technical writing. 9). 1 Shot WorkSheet -Forms, SpreadSheet and calculator. 10). 911 Utilities - 1st Aid, undelete, Sector Collector, Virex 11). HyperCOM - Appletalk communication for HyperCard. 12). On Cue - the ultimate file launcher. 13). Easy Share - Network file sharing. 14). Smartcom II - Macintosh Telecommunications 15). HayesConnect - modem sharing networks. 16). calenDAR - Personal reminder software 17). Amazing Paint - full featured Paint Program. 18). SAM - AntiVirus protection. 19). KIWI Finder - Hard Disk Organization & Retrieval Tool 20). Ultra Paint - from Deneba 21). GraceLAN - Network Managers Quick Tour Guide 22). M.Y.O.B - Acounting software for the Mac. 23). The Book of MIDI - Hypercard MIDI educator from Opcode. 24). MIDI Translator - one in - three out for MIDI setup from Opcode. 25). MAX - MIDI graphic programing language from Opcode. 26). Grammatik Mac - proofreads your writing for grammar, usage & spelling -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/23/91 20:42:19 Donald Lloyd Jr Clay Moore Re: help CM> CM> I would like someone to explain something.... CM> I have stuffit ver 1.5.1, I downloaded a newsletter file, CM> I also dl'd a file called ufilm.sit, CM> why wont stuffit recognize these files ?, when I click on them they CM> load stuffit, but stuffit still does not see them ? any help will CM> be appreciated........clay thanks These files are compressed with stuffit Deluxe. Don't sweat it though, you can unstuff them with Unstuffit Dlx, which should be available here for d/l (I'm not positive :-) This file =is= available for d/l on The Tiger's Den 996-0078 as UnStufDx.sit. Don Jr. --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG2-BBS*A GREAT MUG*ScottsdaleAz-602/947-0587 = (1:114/53) E •|AMUG 03/24/91 13:12:56 Michael Bean Donald Lloyd Jr Re: help > These files are compressed with stuffit Deluxe. > Don't sweat it though, you can unstuff them with Unstuffit Dlx, which > should be available here for d/l (I'm not positive :-) > This file =is= available for d/l on The Tiger's Den 996-0078 > as UnStufDx.sit. Or just go to the file section on AMUG I and push L for list decompression formats. DD, SD, Stuffit, SC, Compactor are all present in one location of 6 files. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/25/91 14:22:07 Alan Heflich Michael Bean RE: help Michael Bean writes in a message on 22 Mar 91 to Clay Moore Sounds like an IBM'er... <grin>. Alan, This post came from your board is MB> there anything special about these files...perhaps stuffit Delux MB> or Classic compression? Stuffit 1.5.1 is not a good option for anymore. Stuffit Classic will handle Stuffit Delux files as well as 1.5.1 files. The easiest way to get it is to G>o to the new larger file area and select L>ist decompression...... to download either Stuffit Classic (shareware) or Unstuffit Delux (free). =Alan --- COUNTERPoint Silver 1.02 * Origin: AMUG ][ Pointing to the Future - Scottsdale, AZ (1:114/53.1) E •|AMUG 03/26/91 07:32:47 Jason Bushmire Clay Moore Re: help The problem is most likely they were stuffed with StuffIt Classic or Deluxe. You can get StuffIt Classic (1.6) off the AMUG BBS (I think...). What you could do (try at your own risk) is to change the file type and creator to SIT! and SIT! instead of SITD and SIT! or whatever... --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: ===Tucson Apple Core=== (1:300/15) E •|AMUG 03/26/91 14:12:15 David Arbuthnot All Mac Plus monitor problem I just recently started having a problem with my Mac Plus screen. It sometimes simply blacks-out. A tap on the case restores it to normal. Just wondering if any of you have had a similar problem or know what could be wrong. I'm wonting to sell it as I have a IIsi now and would like to know a general figure of how much it will cost to have it repaired. Thanks for any help at all. --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: *AMUG 2 - Hayes Ultra V.32,V.42bis-602/947-0587 = (1:114/53) E •|AMUG 03/26/91 23:47:35 Michael Bean All Apple & Small Business I received a call from Apple computer today and they are interested in forming a discussion group in three cities including Phoenix for Small Business users and Apple computer. I have been requested to provide names for this consortium and the first date appears to be the second week in April. Apple is looking for a mix of those who do and do not use modems and for companies of 1-100 in size. If you are interested in this program please contact Rich Weiss at (408) 974-9754. I will be sending him a list as well so please notify me if you are interested or have contacted him directly. It appears Apple is interested in developing better relationships with the needs of small business's. Thanks, -Michael Bean (602) 892-5454 --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG Preferred - GIGYBYE/38,400 - (602) 926-4026 (1:114/121) E •|AMUG 03/27/91 04:23:26 Donald Lloyd Jr Michael Bean Re: help > push L for list decompression formats. DD, SD, Stuffit, SC, Compactor Hey that's pretty cool! Is this a feature added w/ the CD-ROM thing? If so can I d/l files from the CD RomM? Don Jr --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: Tiger's Den/Phoenix - (6:6008/1) (1:114/27) E •|AMUG 03/28/91 02:39:37 Michael Bean All Apple & AMUG... Sub: Apple discussion w/ AMUGers To: Michael Bean, President, Arizona MUG From: Rich Weiss, Small Business Marketing, Apple Computer Michael, This link follows up on the message I left on your answering machine earlier today regarding an idea for a user group-related program. Apple Computer would like to sponsor a group discussion in your area with Macintosh enthusiasts who own or work in small businesses (up to 100 employees) and belong to AMUG. The discussion would cover the Mac experience in small business and members' involvement in "evangelizing" the Mac to other small businesses. Our objective would be to get the group's reaction to an idea for an Apple-organized and motivated "consortium" of such small business Mac enthusiasts. The group would meet in the evening or over lunch, food will be provided, and Apple would offer each participant a nominal cash sum for sharing his or her thoughts and ideas. We'd like to ask your help in recruiting participants for the discussion. If you'd be willing to either provide us a list of your members' names and phone numbers, or ask members yourself (via BB posting?) and let us know the names and numbers of those who expressed interest, we'd be grateful. Apple's discussion moderator would contact interested members to let them know the time and location of the discussion. I'll try to get in touch with you by phone again tomorrow, but please respond by link or calling me at 408 974-9754 if you have a minute. I hope you'll agree that the proposed discussion offers both your members and Apple an excellent opportunity to get to know each other a little better. Thanks for your assistance. Rich Weiss --------------------------------- Anyone interested contact me at 892-5454... -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/28/91 02:39:37 Michael Bean Donald Lloyd Jr Re: help > > push L for list decompression formats. DD, SD, Stuffit, SC, Compactor > > Hey that's pretty cool! Is this a feature added w/ the CD-ROM thing? > If so can I d/l files from the CD RomM? > > Don Jr Don all the CD ROM titles are on line.... they are in the background of all of the topics available. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/28/91 09:49:48 Jeffrey Gross All 030 Accelerators I heard a very interesting thing from a friend of mine the other day. He has a Mac Plus with a Dove '030 accelerator so he can run System 7 and virtual memory. Guess what? System 7's virtual memory will not run on the Dove. My guess is that it may not work on most accelerators due to Apple ROM calls for virtual. Bottom Line...Before buying an '030 accelerator be sure it will work with virtual. Jeff E •|AMUG 03/28/91 21:58:23 Michael Bean Jeffrey Gross RE: 030 Accelerators > System 7's virtual memory will not run on the Dove. My guess is that it > may not work on most accelerators due to Apple ROM calls for virtual. > Bottom Line...Before buying an '030 accelerator be sure it will work with > virtual. Bottom line...wait for the 040 its a screamer! Radius is out in front with several in the wings...<grin> -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/29/91 14:08:50 Donald Lloyd Jr Michael Bean Re: help That's funny, I couldn't get a (D)ownload line when I called there last. Hmmmmm, make that except on (L)ist decom..,(M)usic,& (T)elecomm.. Can you say, "That's Strange?" I thought you could :^) Don Jr. --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: Tiger's Den/Phoenix - (6:6008/1) (1:114/27) E •|AMUG 03/31/91 15:27:12 Michael Bean All 7.0 & inits... The following INITs/CDEVs were tested for system 7.0 compatibility under the following condition: "Mac IIfx, 20 megs RAM, 32-bit addressing, Macsbug v6.2, system 7.0b4" Each INIT/CDEV was dragged into the system folder by itself. The system was restarted and the INIT/CDEV's functionality was tested. NameVersionExtensionControlsStartupDocSystemWorks?Comments ADB Probe1.200YY Alt CDEF1.200NScroll bars and windows not updated correctly Alt WDEF1.530YY AppFont3.200YY Aurora2.110YNblows up after setting colors AutoCruise2.000YY AutoMenus3.000YYDrop down menus fine AutoSqueeze1.000YYv1.0 contains a fundamental bug- do not use BarTender1.000YY Big Box1.000YNbomb on boot Big CursorYNblew away display Big Pat1.100YNBombs on drawing CDEV BlackBox1.500YN"update problems, patches slow Mac by factor of 4" Bob INIT1.000YY"yep, textedit is still turned off :-)" Boomerang2.020YNCan't seem to get it to load from a number of locations BootBoob Icon1.000YY BroadCast1.200YY Burning Fuse INITYY CacheControl1.310YYseems OK Cheshire CatYYkitty shows Chime3.600YY Sound files must be in system folder ChooseCDEV1.000not relevant to 7.0 Clock AdjustY?shows icon OK Clr NeXT WDEFYY Color CursorYY Color Finderfunctionality included in 7.0 CommanderDialog II1.010YN CDEV Init3.000YNbombs on boot CursorAnimator1.200YYseems OK DFaultDir2.040YNbombs on boot DepthGauge2.010YY DeskPattern1.010YYPattern resource file must be in controls folder. Disinfectant INIT2.400YYYAppears to work Eyeballs1.000YY Faade1.010Ysuperceded by 7.0 feature FetchIT1.200Y??loads OK FinderSounds1.310YN Flash-IT2.100YY Following1.000YNUpdate problems in windows w/modified scrollbars Fortune II1.000YNbombs during INIT loading Front & Center2.000YNNo visible centering on cursor or other choices Fruits of Passion2.400YNNo changing of the Apple occurs HAL1.200YYHAL Edit v1.2 also works HeapTool1.400YY Icon Colorizer1.600functionality included in 7.0 IconWrap1.200Y?loads ok INIT Escape1.210YNbomb on boot INIT Scope1.000YN locks on boot INIT Tracker1.000YNlocks on boot InUse2.000YY Seems OK KeyLights1.0d8YY"blinky, blinky" Kolor1.000YYSeems OK Lip Service1.400YYWorks with Macintalk 2.0 present LockOut2.000YNDA can't find INIT/CDEV LooneyTunes1.000YY LunarCrack1.200YNdoesn't load at startup MacEnvy2.100YYout of date - needs to recognize new hardware MacPassword3.870YY MaxAppleZoom1.300YA--YAll CICN resources must be deleted and an Alias placed in ControlPanel folder MemWatcher1.100YNLocks up at show icon during boot MenuTuner1.000YY MiniScreen1.400YY Moire3.020YY/NScreenSaver seems OK - clock overwrites help Mouse Odometer1.100YY Murphy1.000YYstill gives Murph's laws Nothing1.000YYnot relevant to 7.0 Oliver's Buttons1.000YY Persistence1.000Y?loads Pic-A-Pat1.100YY PopChar1.300YYWho needs Keycaps anymore??? PopIt!1.720YYPop-up menus work like a charm PopUp2.000YNEventualy blew away system file. Ouch! Public Folder1.000superceded by 7.0 functionality Programmers Key1.100Y---Y ScrapSaver2.000Y---N Scroll22.070YNBombs on initial drawing of windows SCSI Probe2.030YNbombs on display of SF box SFScroll (reEtrant)YYminor window update problems in CDEV SmartKeys1.000YY SNDControl1.040YN"Some sounds don't work, then bombs Unifinder" SoundMaster1.6.5YY/Nmost sound/actions don't work Speed Beep2.000YY SpeedChopper1.0b4YY Spy!1.000YY StairCase1.030YNNo dropdown action - bombs UniFinder SunDesk1.100functionality included in 7.0 SuperClock!3.900YY Swatch1.100YNApplication that calls INIT locks up tight TappyType1.360YY Temperament2.000YY TEClicker1.000YYcolor text all over the place TextHack (Yu)YNNot working at unifinder level on xxx.yyy stuff The Grouch2.0b8YN"No actions observed, but seemed to have loaded" TypeItForMe3.000YY UnscrollyNot relevant for 7.0 Waitless1.000Not relevant for 7.0 WindChooser1.120YNUses last choice OK but no Control Panel comes up 4 changes Windows2.000YNlocked up tight xMenuColor1.100YY xWindCntlColor1.100YNAfter color changes bombs when closing CDEV Zoombar1.700YY --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 03/31/91 22:46:51 Michael Bean All CD Killer... CD-ROM MOUNTING BUGS? For all those taking the plung intpo CD mania here is a tip! Aparently The Eradicate'em init is an inhibitor to CD mounting. I have not been able to mount any CD's with it installed. Initially I was concerned about WDEF problems but Disinfectant 2.4 says that the CD is not infected. CD users will need to stay away from the Eradicte'em init. It apparently writes code or tries to on a CD and has desktop problems mounting when doing so. -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 04/01/91 14:56:16 Jeffrey Gross All TOPS Help I am having a problem with Tops. I am running version 2.0 of Tops for Mac and have 2 Macs connected on this network via PhoneNet cabling. I am now attempting to attach a PC with a Tops FlashCard version 2.1 and Tops 2.0 for the PC on to this network. All the Tops PC software seems to be loading OK but it cannot/will not access the Macs on the network. Any ideas. I just don't know what more I can do...and I did try switching the DMA on the PC. Macs networking is great. PC??? If you have any ideas please leave me a returned message on the board or preferably call me at home at 835-6430. Thanx, Jeff E •|AMUG 04/02/91 20:13:10 John Jones All Sound I am kind of new to the mac, so my problems may be due to ignorance, but I am having trouble with sond on my mac. I can't find soundmaster on this bulliten board (is it here?), and even though it is on AMUG II, my 30 minutes is not enough time to download it. I have also tryed to get the talking moose to work, but he won't make any sound. I used the moose and macintalk from this boarsd from a disk which only caontained system , finder, general control panel, and the moose stuff. In fact the c-dev version always bombs when I try to use the utilities. Is it me or has anybody else had problems with this. Anyu suggestions? (If it is any help, I am using an SE/30 with 5mb of RAM). E •|AMUG 04/05/91 02:47:56 Pete Fischer All Disk Doubler 3.1 Hello, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I can open a file that's compressed with Disk Doubler 3.1? I just got used to Compactor, and now we have a whole new system? Thanks, Pete E •|AMUG 04/06/91 10:13:26 Michael Bean Pete Fischer RE: Disk Doubler 3.1 > Hello, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I can open a file > that's compressed with Disk Doubler 3.1? I just got used to Compactor, and > now we have a whole new system? Thanks, Pete Just use F to go to the file section then L to list all 6 compression formats then download disk doubler. -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 04/07/91 11:18:03 John Wall All SoftPC Does anyone have experience they can share on using SoftPC to run PC programs? I have a Mac II. Does it require any hardware upgrades? I have heard my 2 megs of RAM will be a little close. E •|AMUG 04/07/91 13:13:10 Jeffrey Gross John Wall Re: SoftPC I run Soft PC on my Mac II ci It is a bit slow but workable for my needs. Text based apps work reasonable but graphic apps are very slow. Even on a IIci it is slower than any AT I have used. It does seem remarkably well and is very stable. I can recommend SoftPC, particularly the EGA module with those caviats in mind. Jeff E •|AMUG 04/07/91 15:22:55 Frank Turovich Pete Fischer Disk Doubler 3.1 Pete - I'm pretty sure you can use Disk Doubler 3.2 in the Unstuffers file in the AMUG Info disk to open those files. Disk Doubler appears to be the 'semi-official' Apple compacting scheme not used by too many others yet. I too like Compacter and rue the day everyone jumped into the act and created their own. Sigh! Maybe some will shake out soon. Frank --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG Preferred - GIGYBYE/38,400 - (602) 926-4026 (1:114/121) E •|AMUG 04/08/91 01:49:56 Michael Bean All AMUG BBS Lines... AMUG IS YOUR BEST MACINTOSH INVESTMENT! ******************************************* AMUG Preferred is now available! AMUG PREFERRED ADDS NEW CENTRAL PHOENIX LINE AND AUSTRALIA CONNECTION! Wednesday March 20, 1991 AMUG Preferred added a second line for Central Phoenix use! Now AMUG Preferred has a 9600 BPS capability on line #1 at (602) 926-4026 using an HST Dual Standard and 9600 baud capability using a Hayes Ultra at 38,400 on line #2 at (602) 437-9622 (central Phoenix). AMUG Preferred now stretches to Melborne Australia at AMUG's MacContent BBS system at 011-613-848-2915. Contact your long distance service for proper daling codes. Paul Chow is our system operator from down under. This AMUG Affiliated BBS just opened 4-1-91. ----------------------------------------------------- To join AMUG Preferred send $25 and your name and password to: AMUG 718 E. Campbell Ave. Gilbert, AZ 85234 (602) 892-5454 -Michael Bean ***************************************************** --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG Preferred - GIGYBYE/38,400 - (602) 926-4026 (1:114/121) E •|AMUG 04/08/91 01:49:56 Michael Bean All AMUG Events... In the coming months AMUG has many events planned. On April 18, 1991, AMUG will host Symmetry, Coda and Broderbund. Symetry will train us on the new features of Mirah their multimedia storage toolkit, Hyper DA 2.0 and more. Coda will demonstrate Music Prose 2.0 and Finally 2.5, BroderBund will show TypeStyler and more. This meeting will be at 7:00PM in Phoenix at the Howard Johnson Hotel, located at University and the Freeway. On May 4, 1991, AMUG will host a special Training seminar. Over nine classes will be available with professional trainers from around the Valley in attendance. This meeting will be from 11:00AM to 5:30PM in Phoenix at the Howard Johnson Hotel, located at University and the Freeway. On May 16, 1991, AMUG will entertain Word Perfect, Frame and Microsoft. With great training sessions on Word Perfect, Frame and Excel 3.0. This meeting will be at 7:00PM in Phoenix at the Howard Johnson Hotel, located at University and the Freeway. -Michael --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG Preferred - GIGYBYE/38,400 - (602) 926-4026 (1:114/121) E •|AMUG 04/08/91 01:49:56 Michael Bean All AMUG Specials... 800K External Special... AMUG has negotiated a group buy on Fujitsu 800K disk drives for the Macintosh computer. These drives come with a 2 year warranty and are available for $98.96 each. For further information on this great stocking stuffer call Lea Bromley (602) 838-4036. CD Special... AMUG has negotiated a SPECIAL pricing schedule for CD players and the "BBS in a BOX" CD. This CD contains all of the AMUG "Best of" disks, Apple Technical notes, System software, HyperCard 2.0, the AMUG Show, newsletter, and Library stacks plus ALL 6,750 FILES ON THE AMUG BBS! The CD contains descriptions of all the files in On Location and text file format. There are two options in this SPECIAL OFFER! 1). Purchase the Apple CD drive for $649.00 and get the "BBS in a BOX" CD for FREE. 2). Purchase the NEC portable for $449.00 with Mac interface included and get the "BBS in a BOX" CD for FREE. The "BBS in a BOX" CD retails at $119.00 and is a great value. There is no better way to collect all the software, reviews, news, etc. AMUG has to offer than to participate in this one time offer. To order send the amount above plus appropriate sales tax to AMUG, CD Special offer, 718 E. Campbell Ave., Gilbert, AZ 85234. For further information call Michael Bean at (602) 892-5454. --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG Preferred - GIGYBYE/38,400 - (602) 926-4026 (1:114/121) E •|AMUG 04/08/91 09:08:24 Dorman Bullard Michael Bean RE: AMUG Events... > > On May 16, 1991, AMUG will entertain Word Perfect, Frame > and Microsoft. With great training sessions on Word Perfect, > Frame and Excel 3.0. This meeting will be at 7:00PM in > Phoenix at the Howard Johnson Hotel, located at University > and the Freeway. > Must not be much to the new Excel 3.0 if it, Word Perfect and Frame can all be shown at one meeting. Come to think of it, must not be much to Frame an Word Perfect either. Not only are these programs going to be shown. Oh no! These are going to be training programs. And *GREAT* training programs at that. This ought to be good. I'm looking forward to seeing how it is done. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: A Point Worth Getting to. (1:114/56.4) E •|AMUG 04/08/91 10:53:26 Michael Bean All Apple Focus Group... Attention all AMUG members... Apple Computer is running a focus group for obtaining AMUG members responses to possible future product ideas and plans under consideration for future Apple development. This focus meeting will take place on April 15, 1991 in the evening at approximately 8:00PM. If you are interested in participating please call Louise Dickinson or Janet at 264-1133 and see if you have the background needed for this particular focus meeting and if they still have space. If so you will be scheduled for this meeting and paid a small participation fee. Enjoy! -Michael Bean --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 04/08/91 16:51:06 Dorman Bullard All Computer Furniture Buy Super City Office Products is having a going out of business sale. Super City is a discount office supply store to begin with. Prices are 30 percent off sticker price. And, they have already cut office furniture prices by up to 60 percen (so they say), and you get 30 percent off that. For example, a printer table with one sliding and two other shelves lists for $89, and you get 30 percent off that. And other computer tables and hutches may even be better deals. Of course they have office furniture other than computer stuff too. They still have some office stationary stuff also. I bought a couple of avery laser printer labels #5260, 750 labels each (1x2 5/8s; 3 across) for $6.69 each package less 30 percent. First laser labels I ever bought. Is that a good deal? The sale will go on for a couple of weeks, maybe longer if they sell well, and stuff is brought in from other stores --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: A Point Worth Getting to. (1:114/56.4) E •|AMUG 04/10/91 02:26:12 Michael Bean All Disk Doubler - On Location Hint... I back up a lot of files to a hard disk, index them with On Location, and then turn background indexing OFF before I Disk Double them. That way, I can still perform searches by text-in-file and get accurate results, even though the files are compressed. If you don't turn off background indexing, OL willscan your volume, see compressed files, and chuck out the digital signatures for the text in those files, thus rendering text-in-file inoperative.. BTW, we appreciate all of the feedback you've been giving us on getting OL to work with the various compression schemes. I realize my solution isn't the final answer, and it has its flaws, but I thought I'd post it in case anyone found it helpful. Conall Ryan --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 04/10/91 05:12:37 Dorman Bullard Michael Bean RE: Disk Doubler - On Location Hint... > > I back up a lot of files to a hard disk, index them with On Location, and then > turn background indexing OFF before I Disk Double them. That way, I can still > perform searches by text-in-file and get accurate results, even though the > files are compressed. If you don't turn off background indexing, OL willscan > your volume, see compressed files, and chuck out the digital signatures for > the text in those files, thus rendering text-in-file inoperative.. > If background indexing is off, won't On Location still index at other times, such as whenever you quit a session? --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: A Point Worth Getting to. (1:114/56.4) E •|AMUG 04/11/91 03:53:59 Michael Bean Dorman Bullard RE: Disk Doubler - On Location Hint... > > > > > I back up a lot of files to a hard disk, index them with On Location, and > then > > turn background indexing OFF before I Disk Double them. That way, I can > still > perform searches by text-in-file and get accurate results, even > though the > files are compressed. If you don't turn off background > indexing, OL willscan > your volume, see compressed files, and chuck out the > digital signatures for > the text in those files, thus rendering > text-in-file inoperative.. > > > If background indexing is off, won't On Location still index at other times, > such as whenever you quit a session? No just when you re-index.... -Michael --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1) E •|AMUG 04/11/91 07:51:21 Dorman Bullard All *Correction* on Date For Word Class The meesage previously posted on a class on Microsoft Wore gave the wrong date. The correct date for the class is April 13 (as stated in the Newsletter). Here is the correct information: A class on Microsoft word will be sponsored by AMUG on Saturday April 13. The class will be taught by a Microsoft Corporation representative. The class is designated as a beginning class, although attendees are expected to be familiar with the software. The class will be from 9:00 to 12:00 AM at the Pyle Recreation center which is located on Southern Ave near the Southwest corner of Rural Road. The class is free to members of AMUG. Non members can join at the meeting $30.00/year). No preregistration is necessary, just show up. But if you have questions you can call me at 962-9619. E •|AMUG 04/12/91 07:49:46 Jacci Hall All New Point... Hi, I am a new point on the BBS. Please put Jacci Hall in your AMUG Point address book at 114/56.18. Thanks, Jacci --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.18) E •|AMUG 04/13/91 23:44:52 Pete Fischer Michael Bean RE: Disk Doubler 3.1 Thanks very much for the information on Disk Doubler, I appreciate it. Only I hope I can find the right section, Pete E •|AMUG 04/13/91 23:46:52 Pete Fischer Frank Turovich Re: Disk Doubler 3.1 Frank, Thanks for taking the time to reply to my request for help on the Disk Doubler Dilemma. I hope I can get it figured out, Pete E •|AMUG 04/15/91 02:04:40 Michael Bean All AMUG Echo Here is a list of all the BBS's that carry the AMUG echo and have posted a message between 8-1-90 and 4-14-91. This list will be reposted so all can see who is on the echo from time to time. Origin Analysis compiled 4/14/91 First message posted 8/01/90. Last message posted 04/11/91. Totals: 327 messages total from 21 locations. Origin Locations compiled 4/14/91 1:114/110Kitty's SandboxTempe AZKathleen McDonald-Neal1-602-829-7522 1:114/121AMUG PreferredPhoenix AZMichael Bean1-602-926-4026 1:114/15St Joes HospitalPhoenix AZDavid Dodell1-602-235-9653 1:114/27The Tiger's DenPhoenix AZJohn Gillett1-602-996-0078 1:114/53AZ MAC UG 2Scottsdale AZAlan Heflich1-602-947-0587 1:114/56AZ MAC UGPhoenix AZMichael Bean1-602-495-1713 1:300/15Tucson Apple CoreTucson AZLawrence Lee1-602-577-6393 1:300/19Dave's MailboxTucson AZDave Daniel1-602-747-1269 1:304/2Ramcom Technology BBSFlagstaff AzRon Moore1-602-526-5805 A utility is being created that will read echoes and list all nodes on the echo, the sysop, node number, phone, location, number of posts for a designated period. The output above was created with this utility. If you are interested in generating such information so that they can know "whose on the echo" this utility will be available for $20.00. I see command 14's being used in Second Sight so that local posters can have a text display of who is on each of the echoes and the date of the last post. This will really educate our users on echo traffic and who they can reach! If you are interested in this utility send $20 to Michael Bean at 718 E. Campbell Ave., Gilbert, AZ 85234 with a return address and a request for Origin Counter & Sectalyze. This new utility should really help us know our echos. -Michael --- Tabby 2.2 * Origin: AMUG Preferred - GIGYBYE/38,400 - (602) 926-4026 (1:114/121) E •|AMUG 04/15/91 10:45:18 Dave Furey John Wall SoftPC for the Mac John, I recommend that you not buy SoftPC if you plan to do some real IBM-DOS work. I have a 386sx clone at work, and I thought it would be a good idea to buy SoftPC for my Mac IIcx at home. Man, the SoftPC emulator runs extremely slow. I ran a cpu speed program under the emulator, and it showed up at 0.5 MHz! SoftPC runs in CGA mode, unless you purchase an additional module that will emulate an EGA mode. My recommendation to you, is to consider buying a cheap 286 clone if you plan to do some real IBM work ... E •|AMUG 04/18/91 05:55:20 Lawson English Dave Furey SoftPC for the Mac The AT module for SoftPC speeds things up considerably... Lawson --- COUNTERPoint Silver 1.02 * Origin: Macs 'R' Fun (1:300/15.88) E •|AMUG 04/18/91 08:23:44 I. S. Kimball All SCROLLLING I WOULD APPRECIATE KNOWING HOW TO STOP THE SCROLLING ON MY SCREEN WHEN I OPEN UP TO AMUG. MANY THANKS AND A DRINK TO ANY BODY WHO CAN HELP ME. THANKS VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. E •|AMUG 04/18/91 19:41:52 Dave Furey Lawson English Re: SoftPC for the Mac Well Lawson, I think I've spend enough money on SoftPC stuff. It turns out,that Microsoft is starting to use its brains by giving software like Word and excel, the capability of storing files in Macintosh-format. With the use of the 1.44 MB DOS disk drive and the Apple File exchanger, transfering files between the two foreign machines is somewhat painless. E •|AMUG 04/19/91 00:57:46 Jeffrey Gross All Epson Laser...WoW!!! Just got back from AMUG and Lo-and-Behold my new Epson EPL 7500 Postscript Laser was sitting at the door dropped off by the nice UPS man. I bought the printer to have a reasonably fast, good quality(same engine as NEC's Model 90) output, and a good price. So far(3 hrs use) it has passed with flying colors. It is on the order of 6 or 7 times the speed of the LaserWriter Plus it replaces and appears to be quite a bit faster than even Apple's LaserWriter NTX. Sorry I had to brag but others should know. Sincerely, Jeff E •|AMUG 04/20/91 08:39:26 Roger Austin Michael Bean Re: Apple Focus Group... I would like to have some feedback on the focus meeting since I was unable to go.I was wondering what direction Apple is thinking of going. E •|AMUG 04/21/91 14:02:14 Michael Bean Roger Austin Re: Apple Focus Group... > I would like to have some feedback on the focus meeting since I was unable > to go.I was wondering what direction Apple is thinking of going. It was just a study group and from the feedback they recieved it appears the program discussed will not come about. --- Copernicus V1.00 * Origin: Arizona Macintosh Users Group, (602) 495-1713 (1:114/56.1)